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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James" data-source="post: 310" data-attributes="member: 2">I appreciate your positive intentions. However your method is a little bitter. I get the feeling that your parents or teacher where too critical of you during childhood and so now you need to be healed from it.With logic and debate Ad hominem/personal attacks<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem</a>are understood to be just a fallacy. Such errors cloud debate and distract from the actual points. So from now on give them up.A personal does not have to be a supreme master in order to teach some points. Unless someone is a supreme master then they are always both a teacher and a student.As this is a discussion and debating community of course there will be differing points of view. People express their views and listen to other perspectives. We are both teacher and student at the same time.It is wise to learn from nature and from other people. We can learn from stories. We can learn from anyone. Even someone who maybe below us in some areas of understanding may still have something to teach us in a different area. Such is life.Here is a list of some of your positive qualities:<a href="https://www.virtuescience.com/virtuelist.html" target="_blank">https://www.virtuescience.com/virtuelist.html</a>In essence you and anyone else are not lacking a single virtue. All virtues and all wisdom are within.However they can be temporarily hidden and repressed. Nevertheless they are still within and will radiate fully eventually.A dark cloud cannot destroy the sun but only obscure it for a while.A bad/foolish person is like a glass of dirty water. A good/wise person is like a glass of pure water.Even in the case of the dirty water the pure water is still there. Once the defilements and dirt are removed then the pure water is again seen.So all wisdom and goodness is within everyone. By doing the Krishna mantra and reading the Bhagavad Gita then of course it helps to purify and uplift us. However there are other methods as well.Many rivers flow into the same ocean. In a similar way there are many paths to the Divine.[ATTACH=full]57[/ATTACH]</blockquote>